Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

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octophone said:
This is the bastard with streaming, even tho' everyone who could conceivably want it has long got it, it'll get a chart run again due to streaming playlists at Xmas parties.
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I only meant the Bieber version. Plenty of people are buying the regular version. It's just outside the top 10 if you combine sales of both charting versions.
 
Because it's a soulless, cynically manufactured spoof. Anyone with Phil Spector's Christmas album knows the sound so well and this thinly synthesized xerox is staggering in its insincerity. It's a plastic snowflake, a gaudy Poundland bauble next to the album from which it was blatantly stolen. It's the kind of record that makes me root for Kin Jong Un.
 
I think it's easily the best Christmas song there ever has been or will be.

I've been DJing work Christmas parties this weekend and people go mental for it.
 
octophone said:
Because it's a soulless, cynically manufactured spoof. Anyone with Phil Spector's Christmas album knows the sound so well and this thinly synthesized xerox is staggering in its insincerity. It's a plastic snowflake, a gaudy Poundland bauble next to the album from which it was blatantly stolen. It's the kind of record that makes me root for Kin Jong Un.
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Because other Xmas songs are well sincere. Christmas is a commercial kitsch construct, as is this.
 
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But it can be done well. Wizzard's "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day" starts with the sound of a cash register ffs and it's an outright classic.

Americans, in the main, don't get Christmas.
 
There's not a tiny shred of winter melancholy. She's just gagging for it while a Casio preset chuffs away behind her.
 
octophone said:
There's not a tiny shred of winter melancholy. She's just gagging for it while a Casio preset chuffs away behind her.
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I disagree with this entirely. For someone often accused of singing without any soul, you can hear the joy come off the record. It’s brilliantly done...
 
Wouldn't do if we were all the same. But I find "Mistletoe and Wine" less excruciating.
 
I don't care that much for Christmas, but this song is what comes to mind whenever I think about Christmas. And I think it's quite sweet to say to someone that all you for Christmas is them. Can't fault it.
 
Not only is Mariah’s magnum opus – also known as All I Want for Christmas Is You (And A Proletarian Revolution) – extremely catchy, but it is a clear criticism of the excesses of festive capitalism. I mean, it’s basically the Das Kapital of Christmas music. Take, for example, the intro: “I-I-I don’t want a lot for Christmas / There is just one thing I need / I don’t care about the presents / Underneath the Christmas tree.” What Mariah is really saying here is: “Capitalist production, during the holidays, produces not only commodities, not only surplus value, but it also produces and reproduces the capitalist relation; on the one side the capitalist, on the other the elf-labourer.”
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:side-eye:
 
Still number one on Spotify by the way - she must have a good chance of midweek number one
 
Sheena said:
Still number one on Spotify by the way - she must have a good chance of midweek number one
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It'll be interesting, but I don't think she will be. Sheeran is outselling her over 6 to 1 (and it was more than that), but on Spotify alone is about 100k streams behind her over the last two days. I know Spotify isn't the only streaming service, but I believe it accounts for just over half the streaming market.

Obviously we don't know what the download sales figures are, but 100k streams isn't much in terms of sales equivalence, so I'd be surprised if she did it.
 
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Shirley said:
Not only is Mariah’s magnum opus – also known as All I Want for Christmas Is You (And A Proletarian Revolution) – extremely catchy, but it is a clear criticism of the excesses of festive capitalism. I mean, it’s basically the Das Kapital of Christmas music. Take, for example, the intro: “I-I-I don’t want a lot for Christmas / There is just one thing I need / I don’t care about the presents / Underneath the Christmas tree.” What Mariah is really saying here is: “Capitalist production, during the holidays, produces not only commodities, not only surplus value, but it also produces and reproduces the capitalist relation; on the one side the capitalist, on the other the elf-labourer.”
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This, but unironically :hafo:
 
What arbitrary figure will the OCC apply to Carey’s streams? Is it the same as her competition?
 
With sales and streams increasing, presumably she'll have the standard 150/1 ratio.
 
The idea of calling a Xmas song "insincere" is hilarious :grin: In a sea of terrible christmas songs, this one stands out of course as being a true classic. It boggles my mind though that in 1994 this didnt universally become #1 in every country. Some of the appalling Christmas number ones in the 90s, most of which had nothing to do with Xmas yet THIS didnt? Just incredible.
 
Yr entitled to yr opinion, I'm entitled to mine. It's a pile of steaming horseshit that makes me want the Messiah to return to earth so that I can decapitate him for inspiring such piffle.
 
It's #4 in the midweeks. It's quite close between 2-4, but Ed Sheeran has registered about as many as the three songs below him put together.
 
The absurd way things are this will end up the best selling song OF ALL TIME as it racks up "sales" every December forever more despite being streamed by the same people every time who have technically already "bought" it THIRTY SIX TIMES

And then Octophone is found at the base of a tall car park.

I find the charts so fucking confusing :(
 
Mariah to cancel all future tours of "unappreciative" and "downright grim" Scotland.
 
Raining On Me said:
The absurd way things are this will end up the best selling song OF ALL TIME as it racks up "sales" every December forever more despite being streamed by the same people every time who have technically already "bought" it THIRTY SIX TIMES
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Only if CUNTING SHEERAN doesn't release 'Shape Of You' as a duet with Bieber and with a few added jingle bells.
 
Looks set to beat its #4 2007 download era peak then! I still think there's a chance she might do this in the next few weeks if her downloads pick up!
 
Pingu said:
It's #4 in the midweeks. It's quite close between 2-4, but Ed Sheeran has registered about as many as the three songs below him put together.
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Rak Su now outselling Sheeran by over 2 to 1. And now on Spotify. I doubt they will threaten him with his lead from before they were released, though.
 
What percentage of the chart comes from sales these days? 50%?
 
It's different according to the song, isn't it? Post Malone was very streaming heavy, whereas others are more sales heavy. There's no fixed percentage.

Billboard uses a formula, but bugger knows how THAT works.
 
Camila Cabello's 5 weeks at #1 Have had this much of their totals come from streaming

63% week 1
59% week 2
66% week 3
65% week 4
70% week 5
 
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