Cerro de Casa
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Known as TEA (track equivalent album) and SEA (streaming equivalent album) when originally implemented, 10 song sales or 1,500 song streams from an album were treated as equivalent to one purchase of the album.
TEA is downloads and SEA is streaming.What are TEA and SEA?
I didn't realise Rebel Heart did so 'well' (relatively speaking!) on streaming..I didn't realise Madame X was that much down on Rebel Heart. I assumed they performed similar
I didn't realise Rebel Heart did so 'well' (relatively speaking!) on streaming..
True but Karly still feeds the gays with bops like Say Something and Real Groove. Marge hasn't given us anything to gag over since Bush was in power.Wow, she fell off the cliff horribly.
That said I'm sure Kylie's sales would probably still be lower, with a similar crash. But then she never had America.
Girl Gone Wild was a BOP!True but Karly still feeds the gays with bops like Say Something and Real Groove. Marge hasn't given us anything to gag over since Bush was in power.
Multifactorial I would say but still mainly her own fault for going with that damaging 360 deal which favoured making money from touring.Wow, she fell off the cliff horribly.
That didn't force her to make a decade or more of undesirable music.Multifactorial I would say but still mainly her own fault for going with that damaging 360 deal which favoured making money from touring.
I think there could have been a good album out of Rebel Heart if the leaks didn't happen and the wheels didn't fall off so spectacularly. It's got some great songs on it.That didn't force her to make a decade or more of undesirable music.
She peaked so hard in 1985/86I didn’t realise True Blue was her biggest seller, I’d always assumed it was Like A Prayer.
True Blue is indeed her biggest selling studio album. Like a Prayer was a relative commercial downturn in fact, partly because of the controversy surrounding the title track. Some of the other single also didn't do as well for her ('Oh Father' famously missing the US top 10 at the time and the UK being a bit more preoccupied with SAW in '89).I didn’t realise True Blue was her biggest seller, I’d always assumed it was Like A Prayer.
Downturn being relative with 15 million sales! The Like A Prayer singles seemed omnipresent but perhaps I was just of an age to remember them more clearly.True Blue is indeed her biggest selling studio album. Like a Prayer was a relative commercial downturn in fact, partly because of the controversy surrounding the title track. Some of the other single also didn't do as well for her ('Oh Father' famously missing the US top 10).
Who honestly pops Evita on!The biggest surprise in that table for me is that Erotica has apparently outsold Evita in the long run.
Touché!Who honestly pops Evita on!
Still waiting for it to drop on streaming.Touché!
I only ever reach for the Spanglish Miami mix of DCFMA and that's not even on the album!
It's coming I'm sure. Which reminds me.. I think 'Ray Of Light' is nextStill waiting for it to drop on streaming.
I don't recall the specific mixes but I remember uploading all the mixes from my Madonna CD singles to my Windows Music Player and being obsessed.It's coming I'm sure. Which reminds me.. I think 'Ray Of Light' is next
My fave at the time was the Sasha Ultraviolet mix but the Orbit Liquid mix and even the Calderone club mix were both also v good..I don't recall the specific mixes but I remember uploading all the mixes from my Madonna CD singles to my Windows Music Player and being obsessed.
Are they that abysmal compared to her female peers? Last time I checked streaming numbers for legacy/classic acts in general were horribly skewed in favor of male acts. I don’t know why that is. Last time I looked, Britney was the only female act in the top 30 for acts pre dating 2000 excluding Fleetwood Mac at a push,Her streaming numbers aren't that bad comparatively speaking in the UK and Europe. Her streaming numbers in the USA are absolutely abysmal though..
They're not that bad in comparison to her female peers (except for Whitney I think), but she barely makes the RS top 500 streaming list and even acts like Hall and FUCKING Oats have better streaming numbers than her in the USA.Are they that abysmal compared to her female peers? Last time I checked streaming numbers for legacy/classic acts in general were horribly skewed in favor of male acts. I don’t know why that is. Last time I looked, Britney was the only female act in the top 30 for acts pre dating 2000 excluding Fleetwood Mac at a push,
I think it’s just the age of her fan base though. I stream and download music but never do either with Madonna, I seem to always put the cd on when I want to listen to her. I think most people still listening to her are still playing physical products.They're not that bad in comparison to her female peers (except for Whitney I think), but she barely makes the RS top 500 streaming list and even acts like Hall and FUCKING Oats have better streaming numbers than her in the USA.
I mean, this is the biggest selling female artist of all time we're talking about. Even if comparatively her numbers aren't that bad with her peers I'd have expected better. Didn't realise the US hated her that much!
I think it comes down to that she never really connected with the GP after “Music” here. “Hung Up” and “4 Minutes” obviously were relatively high profile releases/had a rollout here, but they didn’t really endure like they did elsewhere. Unfortunately Hall & Oates etc seem to get more traction on playlists, probably because of their inclusion in movies, ads etc in recent years. She’s certainly made a better coin on hard sales the past 40 years to care about shit streaming numbers though!They're not that bad in comparison to her female peers (except for Whitney I think), but she barely makes the RS top 500 streaming list and even acts like Hall and FUCKING Oats have better streaming numbers than her in the USA.
I mean, this is the biggest selling female artist of all time we're talking about. Even if comparatively her numbers aren't that bad with her peers I'd have expected better. Didn't realise the US hated her that much!
I pretty much stream everything nowadays. I collect and play vinyl too but most of my music (Madonna or otherwise) is consumed via streaming.I think it’s just the age of her fan base though. I stream and download music but never do either with Madonna, I seem to always put the cd on when I want to listen to her. I think most people still listening to her are still playing physical products.