Awards Season 22/23

It’s so bad it deserves to be posted twice.
 
Sorry I’ve just seen there is yet another ‘race row’ over Andrea Riseborough (never nominated despite many incredible performances) being nominated ahead of people like Viola Davis (an EGOT with multiple previous nominations and a win)…

I accept the premise that there is an unconscious bias - but I do not think it’s always helpful to come back to this every time there is a lower proportion of black actors in nominations. (This year has the most Asian nominations ever right? There’s only a certain number of nominations available.)

Riseborough is then forced into a very difficult position where she has to almost apologise for her nomination at a time that should be a moment of joy and success after decades of hard work.
 
I don’t think her nomination is primarily a race thing, but a question about whether the hardcore social marketing that happened with her friends to get her nominated breached Academy rules
 
cwej said:
Sorry I’ve just seen there is yet another ‘race row’ over Andrea Riseborough (never nominated despite many incredible performances) being nominated ahead of people like Viola Davis (an EGOT with multiple previous nominations and a win)…

I accept the premise that there is an unconscious bias - but I do not think it’s always helpful to come back to this every time there is a lower proportion of black actors in nominations. (This year has the most Asian nominations ever right? There’s only a certain number of nominations available.)

Riseborough is then forced into a very difficult position where she has to almost apologise for her nomination at a time that should be a moment of joy and success after decades of hard work.
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It’s quite ridiculous, especially how it always falls down to a black/white issue when talking about nominations. Viola Davis could even be classed as a supporting role in The Woman King and it’s not like Deadwyler is much of a name with a wide body of work behind her. I was personally underwhelmed by her performance in Till and thought Thuso Mbedu should have been acknowledged for The Woman King instead since she was the bonafide lead.

Personally I thought Michelle Yeoh should have won the BAFTA, but unless she WINS, the conversation always seems to fall down to a whitewash issue and Asians rarely get included in the conversation, even on the rare occasion when they’re nominated.
 
Disappointed by the BAFTA wins. All Quiet on the Western Front is very good, but a war film sweeping yet again is so boring when there are much more creative films in the mix.

Same for Tar, Cate was great but I really want Michelle to win and it's looking less and less likely.

Austin Butler definitely a preferable winner to Brendan Fraser in that ghastly film, but again it's another 'play a famous dead person = instant Oscar'.
 
Apparently there was a Moonlight/La La Land moment that was edited out of last night's broadcast. Troy Kotsur's signing was mistranslated while he was announcing Best Supporting Actress and Carey Mulligan was announced the winner instead of Kerry Condon.
 
Ah he'll be in the TV ones, Sal. He was predominantly a LOCAL STAR
 
funky said:
I don’t think her nomination is primarily a race thing, but a question about whether the hardcore social marketing that happened with her friends to get her nominated breached Academy rules
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That’s not the way it’s read as reported on the BBC but I have only seen that one Article on it.
 
SAG winners

Best Actor
Brendan Fraser


Best Actress
Michelle Yeoh



Best Supporting Actor
Ke Huy Quan



Best Supporting Actress
Jamie Lee Curtis :disco:

 
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I've been a fan of James Hong for years thanks to his iconic Seinfeld guest role :disco: Whenever he turns up in something I'm watching I always get a little thrill

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So EEOAW has won DGA, PGA and SAG. I think that makes it a lock for best picture.
 
It’s still really hard to pick the actress categories though. It’s nice that they’re not a foregone conclusion like most years but I really want a Michelle/Jamie double dammit!
 
Watched To Leslie, it’s decent but there’s nothing that special about. Andrea is good but it’s not a performance that is that out of this world that you would want her to get nominated for.
 
Phoenix said:
Watched To Leslie, it’s decent but there’s nothing that special about. Andrea is good but it’s not a performance that is that out of this world that you would want her to get nominated for.
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I thought it was pretty good. 7/10 film and a performance not undeserving at all (and sorry, but better than the ones she supposedly took the place of). I don’t know what the fuss is all about.
 
She’s good but she’s also good in everything she does. Like I would want her to win for a spectacular performance in a good movie not a meh movie.

But I’m good with her winning as a career recognition.
 
I have seven features left to cram into the next week and a bit

Blonde (planning to power through tonight :zombie: )
Triangle of Sadness (was really hoping it’d pop up for one more random cinema screening up here but it hasn’t happened)
Close (Out next week)
All that breathes (on Sky)
All The Beauty & The Bloodshed (On Curzon)
Marcel The Shell (Will probably end up torrenting)
Puss In Boots (Same)
 
That doesn’t count random one-off tech or song nominees like Bardo, Mrs Harris Goes to Paris or the film that godawful Dianne Warren song is from. Even I have my limits.
 
VoR said:
That doesn’t count random one-off tech or song nominees like Bardo, Mrs Harris Goes to Paris or the film that godawful Dianne Warren song is from. Even I have my limits.
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I managed to find Tell It Like a Woman on a torrent which took a whole day to download as it was a big file. It’s barely even a film. All the Letterboxd reviews are from Oscar completists chastising Dianne Warren :D

Anyway, seeing Close at the cinema on Saturday and still have to do All Quiet on the Western Front and The Quiet Girl. Othwise all DONE (apart from Avatar 2).
 
Lucille said:
All the beauty and the bloodshed is really very good if not a little TRAUMATIC!
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I liked it a lot as it was extremely interesting, but I didn’t really GET the correlation between Nan’s earlier years and her life in the NYC art scene, and what she’s doing today. It was like two different documentaries.
 
@VoR Triangle of Sadness is out now on DVD, I saw it in a shop the other day so the torrent MUST be doing the rounds.
 
Ellie said:
I liked it a lot as it was extremely interesting, but I didn’t really GET the correlation between Nan’s earlier years and her life in the NYC art scene, and what she’s doing today. It was like two different documentaries.
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I didn’t get a disconnect at all, surely it was important to correlate her action against major art institutions with her background within the art scene. Also it fed into her experience in the eighties with the AIDS epidemic and Act Up movement, which has obvious parallels to what she was doing in the present day. And I may be taking it too literally, but it often felt like the depictions of her youth and alongside it the really breathtaking images of her work were the beauty to the bloodshed that characterises the later half of the film. The depiction of her early life, initially at least felt romantic and idealistic, and was a much needed counterpoint to the quite relentless darkness of the subject matter that was occurring in the near present.
 
A film just documenting her career would’ve been a beautiful documentary as her work is undoubtedly incredibly strong, but a film just consisting of her work in the present day would’ve been just too unrelenting and depressing, it needed the lightness and the darkness of both periods, and what made it quite brilliant was presenting the way these periods intersected.
 
Lucille said:
I didn’t get a disconnect at all, surely it was important to correlate her action against major art institutions with her background within the art scene. Also it fed into her experience in the eighties with the AIDS epidemic and Act Up movement, which has obvious parallels to what she was doing in the present day. And I may be taking it too literally, but it often felt like the depictions of her youth and alongside it the really breathtaking images of her work were the beauty to the bloodshed that characterises the later half of the film. The depiction of her early life, initially at least felt romantic and idealistic, and was a much needed counterpoint to the quite relentless darkness of the subject matter that was occurring in the near present.
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But she was never really part of the mainstream art at the time? The way it kept chopping around, it was blatantly obvious that all of her friends from the 80s died of AIDS before they even mentioned it, and they didn’t even touch on big pharma’s involvement in that side. Then all of the stuff with her family and sister… I couldn’t see a connection other than it being a profile on her life.

Anyway, I do need to get around to watching Dopesick.
 
Anyone had any luck finding the short films @Ellie @Phoenix ?

Particularly interested in the live action shorts, but I'll try to watch all of them if I can.
 
I’ve seen them all. A friend uploaded them to an iCloud as I think someone at AwardsWatch had them. The Red Suitcase was far and away the best.

I believe Night Ride was on YouTube using a VPN.

Which ones are you looking for?
 
All of them! But the five live action ones would take my priority if you're able to SHARE

Thanks!
 
VoR said:
All of them! But the five live action ones would take my priority if you're able to SHARE

Thanks!
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I’ll check to see which ones I still have. Le Pupille is on Disney+ by the way.

The shared sheet with my friends of what we have left to watch is now just a note saying Avatar: The Way of Water, and I intend to leave it that way just to piss off one of them :angel:
 
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Well, Close wrecked me :(



That completes my International Feature scorecard.

1. Close
2. The Quiet Girl
3. All Quiet On The Western Front
4. Argentina, 1985
5. EO (Sorry to the arthouse fans but I am still reeling from the fact that I paid money to sit through this :D)
 
Live action shorts DONE! :disco:

1. An Irish Goodbye
2. The Red Suitcase
3. The Night Ride
4. Le Pupille
5. Ivalu
 
VoR said:
Well, Close wrecked me :(



That completes my International Feature scorecard.

1. Close
2. The Quiet Girl
3. All Quiet On The Western Front
4. Argentina, 1985
5. EO (Sorry to the arthouse fans but I am still reeling from the fact that I paid money to sit through this :D)
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God I don’t think I care for any of those. Close is good but I felt emotionally manipulative. Quiet Girl is fine but hardly special. All Quiet is technically good but it’s the same war movie. Argentina should have been much better but it’s just an average procedural and EO is just EO.
 
They way I want a Cate Blanchett/Michelle Yeoh DUEL WIN so badly this year. I hope there's not a chance that they will spilt the vote and somebody random will win instead (like the infamous year Bette Davis AND Gloria Swanson failed to win when playing two of the most iconic female roles in all cinema history :D)

Michelle deserves it, and Cate has won before - but I do really feel that history will treat Tár as one of THE most iconic female acting roles of all time and it's difficult for the Oscars not to acknowledge that.
 
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