The Israel-Gaza war and wider Middle-East tensions (1 Viewer)

Voodoo said:
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OH FUCK OFF

You can't seriously be anything other than a troll

Because you can't seriously be so ignorant that you think there is some MAGICAL FORCEFIELD that will render civilians immune to an invasion campaign. Like bombs and bullets know only to target the terrorists.

Or

You're suggesting that everyone in Gaza is a terrorist?
 
Have you not read the article? Israel will present a plan for evacuating the civilians in there. It's a good solution.
 
Imagine if everyone else subscribed to the idea of “imma just drop some bombs and hope they find the bad people and the innocent people move out of the way”

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Voodoo said:
Have you not read the article? Israel will present a plan for evacuating the civilians in there. It's a good solution.
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Like it clearly worked for these guys?

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They followed evacuation orders – an Israeli airstrike killed them the next day | CNN

When Palestinians in north Gaza heeded the warnings issued in the Israeli military’s phone calls, text messages, and fliers advising them to head south, they thought they were fleeing to potential safety.
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Voodoo said:
Have you not read the article? Israel will present a plan for evacuating the civilians in there. It's a good solution.
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Is it a better evacuation plan than "you have 5 days to leave, but oh FYI we've closed the borders"?
 
Dark Carnival said:
Like it clearly worked for these guys?

amp.cnn.com

They followed evacuation orders – an Israeli airstrike killed them the next day | CNN

When Palestinians in north Gaza heeded the warnings issued in the Israeli military’s phone calls, text messages, and fliers advising them to head south, they thought they were fleeing to potential safety.
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There's no perfect solution, darling. When you fight terror civilians will get killed, too. Is that news for you?
 
Vile. So far into the IDF propaganda machine it’s no longer possible to notice when you’re just being cruel and inhumane.
 
Voodoo’s posts are giving
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Maybe he has a threshold for how many civilians they can kill in Rafah, in the same way he's adamant that they're still under the UN threshold for genocide (which makes it okay, apparently)
 
Funky said:
Maybe he has a threshold for how many civilians they can kill in Rafah, in the same way he's adamant that they're still under the UN threshold for genocide (which makes it okay, apparently)
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Do you not care about Israeli children lives? It seems you have no problem with Hamas ruling Gaza. Should Israel just wait for another attack from Hamas? There are children in Gaza, so Israel must not defend itself!!!!!!!!!!1
 
Voodoo said:
Another classic, useless & immature Madison post. Thanks for your contribution to this thread.
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It was a response to a post in which you called someone ‘darling’. It asked for and deserved a ‘fuck off’ and nothing more.
 
Voodoo said:
Says the one who is too far into the Hamas propaganda machine? :rolleyes:
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It’s like a merry go round with you. What Hamas propaganda machine? I don’t know what machine you’re talking about but we get fed, and have always been fed, pro-Israeli bias in this country. I don’t recall seeing any Hamas sponsored social content, ever. I saw an interview once with the leader of Hamas but I turned it off because he was clearly deranged.

You are so typical of the IDF propaganda in the assumptions you make about people who have come to an independent thought about this conflict. We haven’t been brainwashed. I’ve just responded to the endless footage of families, children and babies being needlessly bombed. You can keep sharing ideological bollocks from zionists all you want, it is drowned out significantly by the deaths of innocent Gazans. You are fighting an information battle you can never ever win, because the evidence is right there to see. Not from Hamas, but from many many MANY independent verified sources.

You’re like white noise. You offer no reason to change people’s minds. And yet you continue on …
 
Voodoo said:
Oh, you definitely have. The way you talk about Israelis and Zionists proves how much hatred you hold against them. Your bias is showing its ugly colors.
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Find me a single instance where I’ve talked about Israelis.

You’re a hot mess of a poster, are you aware of that? You just make no sense at all. I actually long for a meaningful discussion on the subject because YOU AIN’T IT.
 
Lest I made the mistake of interacting with an obvious troll, @Voodoo you are trying to make out posters here are anti-Israeli state and I don’t think that is true. People are very naturally anti-WAR that is costing the lives of innocents.

Now how we interact with that doesn’t have to involve taking sides. There are still hostages unaccounted for, and there are still bombs dropping on civilians. This war is a mess because the narrative cannot be deciphered coherently - because there is a Hamas controlled narrative coming out of Gaza that cannot be trusted, and, likewise, one coming from a desperate Israeli coalition government that also cannot be trusted.

In that circumstance people will look to the suffering they see with their own eyes. Yes I’ve seen unverified crap being posted here as real news, but on the other hand I see your posts and think how on earth is THIS attitude in any way helping Israeli Jews, the victims of Oct 7th and the hostages and their families? How can you win anybody over to bring people with you? I suspect the answer is you don’t really care. But rest assured you don’t speak for Jews here.
 
gggggg said:
In that circumstance people will look to the suffering they see with their own eyes. Yes I’ve seen unverified crap being posted here as real news, but on the other hand I see your posts and think how on earth is THIS attitude in any way helping Israeli Jews, the victims of Oct 7th and the hostages and their families? How can you win anybody over to bring people with you? I suspect the answer is you don’t really care. But rest assured you don’t speak for Jews here.
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gggggg said:
But rest assured you don’t speak for Jews here.
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The Jews here are afraid to speak up their mind, if you haven't noticed.

Moreover, there is no symmetry between the Israeli government and Hamas. The fact you mentioned them in the same sentence is sickening, to say the least.
 
gggggg said:
People are very naturally anti-WAR that is costing the lives of innocents.
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If people on here had lived in the 40's they would have called for a ceasefire because "German children are suffering. Churchill is a murderer!!! He has blood on his hands. The poor German children! How dare he bombs Germany? Britain should surrender! Make peace (with Hitler)! Not war! War is bad! Bad! Bad!"

That's the simplistic & shallow point of view of some people on here.
 
Voodoo said:
The Jews here are afraid to speak up their mind, if you haven't noticed.

Moreover, there is no symmetry between the Israeli government and Hamas. The fact you mentioned them in the same sentence is sickening, to say the least.
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The prevailing narrative in this thread hasn’t been lost on me. Indeed we’ve both been banned from it temporarily. Sadly the level you’re at in this debate (if you want to be generous enough to call it that) is very low.

And to your second point, give me a break. ‘Can Likud be trusted?’ Is a very different question from ‘Can Hamas be trusted?’ but both are reasonable ones to ask ourselves.
 
Hamas is a Palestinian government/military that’s goal is the destruction of Israel and puts its own citizens in harms way. It cares more about power and hatred than protecting civilians.

Likud and the rest of the far right government of Israel is an Israeli government/military that’s goal is the destruction of Gaza (as their actions show) and puts its own citizens in harms way. It cares more about power and hatred than protecting civilians.

This is obviously an oversimplification of a complex situation, but that comparison seems pretty symmetrical to me
 
Voodoo said:
If people on here had lived in the 40's they would have called for a ceasefire because "German children are suffering. Churchill is a murderer!!! He has blood on his hands. The poor German children! How dare he bombs Germany? Britain should surrender! Make peace (with Hitler)! Not war! War is bad! Bad! Bad!"

That's the simplistic & shallow point of view of some people on here.
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That’s also something you’ve just made up in your head. You can’t state that as a fact, as nobody here lived through the 40s.
 
gggggg said:
And to your second point, give me a break. ‘Can Likud be trusted?’ Is a very different question from ‘Can Hamas be trusted?’ but both are reasonable ones to ask ourselves.
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The Likud party is as legitimate as the Democratic US party.

Hamas is a terror organisation.
 
Voodoo said:
If people on here had lived in the 40's they would have called for a ceasefire because "German children are suffering. Churchill is a murderer!!! He has blood on his hands. The poor German children! How dare he bombs Germany? Britain should surrender! Make peace (with Hitler)! Not war! War is bad! Bad! Bad!"
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I honestly doubt that for most people.

Voodoo said:
That's the simplistic & shallow point of view of some people on here.
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Yes it is a simplistic view. Actually I think the essence of this war is justified, which puts me in the minority. But that hasn’t stopped me attempting to be objective. Something you’re apparently lacking.
 
jivafox said:
That’s also something you’ve just made up in your head. You can’t state that as a fact, as nobody here lived through the 40s.
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My question is very simple: why was it OK for Britain to kill millions of Germans? Was it not a ""genocide""?

Britain was attacked by Germany. Right? It protected itself. Just like Israel protects itself after Hamas invaded it on October 7th. Hamas, backed by Iran, made a promise to repeat October 7th again & again until "Palestine is free" (from Jews!) "from the river to the sea".
 
Voodoo said:
The Likud party is as legitimate as the Democratic US party.

Hamas is a terror organisation.
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I’m not questioning the legitimacy of the party or equating them with Hamas. You understand that right?
 
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