Eurovision 2024: Grand Final (8pm BST Sat)

[Finn]

There's no way all 36 other commentators will deliver completely EBU-approved commentary tonight which presumably will mean weeks of complaints and investigations after this weekend as well.

Plus a "WOKE ANTI-SEMITIC BBC JURY DIDN'T GIVE ISRAEL 12 POINTS" round of confected outrage from the right wing press in the UK.

And/or the opposite from the tin hat wearers on Twitter, if the UK jury does show Israel any love

 

[Lucille]

Plus a "WOKE ANTI-SEMITIC BBC JURY DIDN'T GIVE ISRAEL 12 POINTS" round of confected outrage from the right wing press in the UK.

And/or the opposite from the tin hat wearers on Twitter, if the UK jury does show Israel any love

It will never be over will it?

 

[Sheena]

I really do hope there’s a fuckload of anti-Israel sentiment littered throughout the contest tonight.

Joanna Lumley in a Free Palestine boob tube please.

 

[GNL]

Can someone familiar with Swedish law explain what constitutes unlawful threats?

”An unlawful threat can involve threatening someone with a weapon, or threatening to carry out a criminal act against someone as long as the threat is seriously meant. Even if the threat is not directly expressed to the threatened person, but to someone in his or her acquaintance, it can be punishable if the information was supposed to reach the victim. The threat can also be mediated by an indirect expression of opinion through the wearing of a badge or certain clothing”

 

[dmlaw]

I vaguely wonder if they have tried to screen the juries for any strong pro- or anti- Israeli opinions. For example, I’d be surprised if Charlotte Church is on ours.

 

[ZenGiraffe]

”An unlawful threat can involve threatening someone with a weapon, or threatening to carry out a criminal act against someone as long as the threat is seriously meant. Even if the threat is not directly expressed to the threatened person, but to someone in his or her acquaintance, it can be punishable if the information was supposed to reach the victim. The threat can also be mediated by an indirect expression of opinion through the wearing of a badge or certain clothing”

How wonderfully VAGUE. I'm sure this won't be divisive when the details emerge

 

[AGinAg (38)]

Who are the UK jurors? Have they got round to Lolly yet?

 

[Dark Carnival]

It will never be over will it?

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I now wish this season ended with the last internal selection. It was genuinely more fun

 

[Kratz]

I now wish this season ended with the last internal selection. It was genuinely more fun

We definitely peaked with

 

[Sheena]

Our hosts have just NONCHALANTLY popped an Alcazar playlist on over breakfast and the straight male has just said “I prefer that one about burning, can we have that?”.

The Swedes are just BETTER than us.

 

[Tisch]

We tried to explain the situation to our five year old. His conclusion is that Joost was naughty because he probably "made a fire". I think he's ONTO SOMETHING personally. Get Nutsa involved!

 

[Kratz]

If you want to remember happier times, Blanka is currently doing some throwbacks to last year.

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[ZenGiraffe]

DELICIOUS.

I hope Petra strings up Martin Osterdahl personally after tonight

 

[VoR]

I'm pretty sure that was scripted. They often run through situations like that in the rehearsals so that the hosts can practice how to respond.

 

[Sheena]

I'm pretty sure that was scripted. They often run through situations like that in the rehearsals so that the hosts can practice how to respond.

They would NEVER have done that with Israel.

 

[Sheena]

It’s the empty seat at the end that gets me

 

[ZenGiraffe]

Yeah, the combination of Finland and Israel makes me think it's more likely REAL

 

[Dark Carnival]

They would NEVER have done that with Israel.

Out of all the countries to choose from!

 

[ZenGiraffe]

Incident Joost Klein draait om bedreiging Songfestival-medewerker

De Zweedse politie onderzoekt de bedreiging van een medewerker van het Eurovisie Songfestival. Dit is het incident waardoor Joost Klein vrijdag niet mocht optreden bij de repetities. Klein werd zaterdag gediskwalificeerd voor de finale.

www.nu.nl

MIGHT NOT EVEN BE JOOST

 

[ZenGiraffe]

"The police cannot confirm that the Dutch participant is the suspect."

 

[Dark Carnival]

Incident Joost Klein draait om bedreiging Songfestival-medewerker

De Zweedse politie onderzoekt de bedreiging van een medewerker van het Eurovisie Songfestival. Dit is het incident waardoor Joost Klein vrijdag niet mocht optreden bij de repetities. Klein werd zaterdag gediskwalificeerd voor de finale.

www.nu.nl

MIGHT NOT EVEN BE JOOST

What?

 

[Dark Carnival]

 

[Lucille]

 

[ZenGiraffe]

MESS!

 

[Lucille]

Was it EUROBIRD?

 

[auretz]

Someone has gone back and found that Italy genuinely did record 30% "invalid" (= votes for Italy) votes in 2015 and 2017 at least imagine if the furore caused by the Italian semi vote really *was* people trying to vote for Angelina (I doubt it but still)

 

[lolly]

Sorry, was I foolish to think I'd log on to moopy this morning and assume I'd read all this sorry state had been sorted out?

 

[auretz]

This will no doubt help calm tensions

 

[octophone]

There's a theory wobbling around that all of this drama is confected and designed to get people watching in case the thing is a complete car crash, thus balancing out the impact of any boycotts. If I hadn't been following this thread and seen what a genuine shambles the whole thing is, I'd have been considering that myself.

 

[Soldi]

"The police cannot confirm that the Dutch participant is the suspect."

I look forward to them investigating the Israeli delegation for threatening and verbally abusing other contestants and members of the press, and that Israel don’t compete until a full investigation has taken place.

 

[Alla]

How are the odds at the moment? Did Israel take over already?

 

[Lucille]

Israel has lengthened a bit, 10/3 to Croatia’s 10/11.

 

[Sheena]

I look forward to them investigating the Israeli delegation for threatening and verbally abusing other contestants and members of the press, and that Israel don’t compete until a full investigation has taken place.

One presumes it needs someone to make a formal complaint about that.

I can’t see any broadcaster wanting to open that can of worms right now…

 

[Dark Carnival]

In an unexpected turn of events, Latvia is now number one with the bookies.

 

[ZenGiraffe]

One presumes it needs someone to make a formal complaint about that.

I can’t see any broadcaster wanting to open that can of worms right now…

Not even Ireland?

 

[Sheena]

Not even Ireland?

Have I missed an incident other than Bambie’s treatment at Euroclub? Cause that was Israeli fans, not the delegation…

 

[ZenGiraffe]

Have I missed an incident other than Bambie’s treatment at Euroclub? Cause that was Israeli fans, not the delegation…

The commentator was rude/transphobic and I think I saw that the songwriter was being cruel on Instagram too with pictures taken backstage

 

[Lucille]

This has now had more posts than the 2013 Eurovision final.

 

[ZenGiraffe]

The commentator was rude/transphobic and I think I saw that the songwriter was being cruel on Instagram too with pictures taken backstage

Trying to find the evidence for this and:

Spoiler: NOF

SO MANY QUESTIONS

 

[Soldi]