Kylie - Tension (Album XVI)

[Jark]

I think we just haven't accounted for the general decline in sales again since 2020.

to be honest ~55k is probably her ceiling. she has a very loyal and sizable fanbase but even the casuals who streamed Padam Padam probably weren't going to buy the album.

 

[Devil]

That’s where I am at. I admit I also toyed with it hitting 60-75k, but I guess in reality PP has been a nice fat hit, but isn‘t going to translate to an extra 20k people buying a physical from her. Add to the overall decline in sales and the fact Disco was buoyed by a late November (and locked down) market, to be hitting these levels is impressive overall. Streaming wise, PP doesn’t count toward those figures for the album so it doesn’t even really help there.

We are still hugely above Kiss Me Once figures, and I believe Golden was a bit lower too?

 

[octophone]

I think the days of a hit single automatically creating a hit album are gone. Even as little as ten years ago, I think a significant boost could have been expected.

 

[Eddie]

I think Golden was around 45k if I remember correctly. Also I would argue that in a way it's her most successful BMG album. It took ages for Disco to eventually overtake it and that had the luxury of far more formats.

 

[Jark]

I think the days of a hit single automatically creating a hit album are gone. Even as little as ten years ago, I think a significant boost could have been expected.

agreed. Doja has the #1 song in the UK and around the world but her album sales/streams are ass.

 

[Eddie]

agreed. Doja has the #1 song in the UK and around the world but her album sales/streams are ass.

Kill the physical format and you kill the album, basically.

 

[Eddie]

a tear or two during the perf of Story (AMAZING VOCALS!) at the Royal Albert show last night

You mean the Shepherd's Bush Empire. I last saw her there in 1998. She even had the Intimate & Live giant K up on stage.

 

[Devil]

49,735 is apparently latest midweek.

Just under 3k for Wednesday. Still physicals from today plus two days of streaming to be added on Friday, so should be looking good for 53k-55k or so ignoring any late shipments etc of certain formats.

 

[Nancy]

GO KYLIE ANN!

 

[Sheena]

I think we just haven't accounted for the general decline in sales again since 2020.

to be honest ~55k is probably her ceiling. she has a very loyal and sizable fanbase but even the casuals who streamed Padam Padam probably weren't going to buy the album.

Yeah, but given the multiformatting (I feel I'm saying that a LOT), that's a significant decrease and she's not picked up on streaming, has she? (Not that I know this, but any streaming increase must be neglible...). I absolutely never expected the same audience that streamed Padam Padam to instantly go buy/ stream the whole album but you have to think after what's been the most publicity she's had in YEARS for a single, the TV stuff that's been on (it was basically Kylie night on BBC2 on Saturday), that that's a BIT disappointing that she hasn't been able to remotely break out of the fanbase with this.

 

[Sheena]

Albeit that that presumes the album won't have any legs and there is, to be fair, still quite a bit of promo coming up with the Audience With etc...

 

[Christian]

Last night's Shepherd's Bush Empire setlist:

Spinning Around
In Your Eyes
On A Night Like This / Wow
Tension
Slow
Story
Say Something (Acoustic)
Dancing
Breathe
Hold On To Now
Love At First Sight
Locomotion
Kids

Encore:
Padam Padam
Can't Get You Out Of My Head
All The Lovers

Steve Anderson needs to permanently delete a couple of these off of his hard drive

 

[Eddie]

You ARE saying that a lot and her streaming has doubled (more or less, I think) since Disco. Give her a break.

 

[ZenGiraffe]

Say Something (Acoustic)

 

[Sheena]

You ARE saying that a lot and her streaming has doubled (more or less, I think) since Disco. Give her a break.

Says the man who slags her off most on here

 

[Eddie]

Yeah this annoys me the most. We had better not be getting the acoustic version on tour.

 

[Eddie]

Says the man who slags her off most on here

I think you'll find that was the OLD me.

 

[Sheena]

Last night's Shepherd's Bush Empire setlist:

Spinning Around
In Your Eyes
On A Night Like This / Wow
Tension
Slow
Story
Say Something (Acoustic)
Dancing
Breathe
Hold On To Now
Love At First Sight
Locomotion
Kids

Encore:
Padam Padam
Can't Get You Out Of My Head
All The Lovers

Steve Anderson needs to permanently delete a couple of these off of his hard drive

Indeed. Absolutely no one needed a Locomotion-Kids 1-2 sucker punch, let alone putting "Love At First Sight" with them...

 

[Eddie]

I think we'll never not see Kids on her set lists unfortunately. This is why I think she needs a new musical director or at least someone to work alongside the no doubt AGEING Steve Anderson.

 

[Apoca]

Wow needs to disappear.

 

[Eddie]

Wow needs to disappear.

Half of that list does, to be fair. I suppose she didn't really have the time to rehearse since Leicester.

I imagine Breathe was also a bit of a mood killer. Why not In My Arms?

 

[Eddie]

I wouldn't be averse to her giving All The Lovers the old heave ho too given that there are tracks on Tension that better it.

 

[Apoca]

Somebody To Love needs to be before Say Something with the "Oooh ooooh oooh" of Somebody's outro transitioning into the opening of Say Something.

You're welcome, Kylie Ann.

 

[Eddie]

Somebody To Love needs to be before Say Something with the "Oooh ooooh oooh" of Somebody's outro transitioning into the opening of Say Something.

You're welcome, Kylie Ann.

Yes PLEASE and THANK YOU.

 

[Sheena]

You ARE saying that a lot and her streaming has doubled (more or less, I think) since Disco. Give her a break.

Seriously, though, my point stands- the jump in streaming isn't THAT much, is it? She only has a couple of thousand streaming "sales", right?

Which also means actual sales have crashed even more, despite ALL THAT MULTI FORMATTING (yes, I did it again ) Tension has 23 formats listed, those which are available to the UK market being:

CD- 4
LP- 8
Cassette- 4 (and it appears the double cassette isn't even showing on there yet)
(Download- 4)

That's fucking INSANE! You have to wonder how many have bought the lot, or near to...

 

[Apoca]

I wouldn't be averse to her giving All The Lovers the old heave ho too given that there are tracks on Tension that better it.

"Padamedics, emergency. I repeat, emergency, we have a man who has lost his mind"

 

[Sheena]

Last night's Shepherd's Bush Empire setlist:

Spinning Around
In Your Eyes
On A Night Like This / Wow
Tension
Slow
Story
Say Something (Acoustic)
Dancing
Breathe
Hold On To Now
Love At First Sight
Locomotion
Kids

Encore:
Padam Padam
Can't Get You Out Of My Head
All The Lovers

Steve Anderson needs to permanently delete a couple of these off of his hard drive

Whilst I agree it's a bit "meh" and WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE PWL SONGS, it was a one-off gig so it's probably songs with arrangements lying around and which are close to the Radio 2 gig, which was for a general public audience.

It will be interesting to see what happens for Vegas, though, as presumably that will be a hits set too.

 

[Eddie]

That's fucking INSANE! You have to wonder how many have bought the lot, or near to...

Either your stylus is faulty or you are beginning to sound like a broken record.

As for fans who purchased every single format out there, I still think that's a relatively small number.

 

[Sheena]

I don't think there is a single old song there I need to see live ever again. Of course, she's never getting rid of CGYOOMH and I get that, but you'd hope there would be a fairly decent shake up with a mix of lesser heard but popular stuff at some point soon...

 

[Eddie]

Whilst I agree it's a bit "meh" and WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE PWL SONGS, it was a one-off gig so it's probably songs with arrangements lying around and which are close to the Radio 2 gig, which was for a general public audience.

It will be interesting to see what happens for Vegas, though, as presumably that will be a hits set too.

The audience were 2/3 influencers and celebrities. They wouldn't know what a PWL is.

 

[Eddie]

I don't think there is a single old song there I need to see live ever again. Of course, she's never getting rid of CGYOOMH and I get that, but you'd hope there would be a fairly decent shake up with a mix of lesser heard but popular stuff at some point soon...

It'll be interesting to see what the Vegas set list is like - I expect we'll be getting a variation of that on an Audience With in December.

They way she has been talking recently, it wouldn't surprise me if she releases another album before she tours.

 

[Christian]

Half of that list does, to be fair. I suppose she didn't really have the time to rehearse since Leicester.

I imagine Breathe was also a bit of a mood killer. Why not In My Arms?

Breathe was the most exciting thing on that setlist outside the new tracks.

 

[Christian]

It'll be interesting to see what the Vegas set list is like - I expect we'll be getting a variation of that on an Audience With in December.

They way she has been talking recently, it wouldn't surprise me if she releases another album before she tours.

Vegas will probably be a cutdown version of last night with very few reinventions.

I can't see how she could get another album out before a tour given how heavily she's promoted this one. She's not going to do a Beyoncé / Beyoncé.

 

[Eddie]

Vegas will probably be a cutdown version of last night with very few reinventions.

You think? She has already said there are unheard arrangements of songs she is planning on debuting there and for a show purportedly in the works for a few years, recycling old arrangements will not go down well given the high ticket prices.

 

[Christian]

You think? She has already said there are unheard arrangements of songs she is planning on debuting there and for a show purportedly in the works for a few years, recycling old arrangements will not go down well given the high ticket prices.

That sounds more interesting. I wonder if those new arrangements would carry over to the European tour or be a Vegas exclusive.

 

[Eddie]

I think they are likely to be exclusive to Vegas with perhaps some sneak peeks of the odd arrangement at the Audience With show.

The way I understand it, the shows are specifically tailored to the Voltaire club and an enhanced audience interaction, whatever that means.

 

[Jark]

I wouldn't be averse to her giving All The Lovers the old heave ho too given that there are tracks on Tension that better it.

are there? hmm.

All the Lovers should be a fixture. and she's earned the right to give the songs that mean the most to her a regular outing.

I would definitely ditch Kids, Wow and Loco-motion and bring in I Believe In You, In My Arms and Better The Devil You Know though. I would also much rather have Magic or I Love It than Dancing personally.

 

[Eddie]

are there? hmm.

Yes.

 

[Apoca]

"Thank you everyone, its been an incredible evening! This is the last one for tonight! "

*cue Green Light sax solo*

 

[Eddie]

More like the New Order guitar like-stabs of Hold On To Now.