Haven't watched Big Little Lies (should I?) but in terms of rich people problems I've tried to watch Elite and gave up at the end of season 1 and still can't believe how successful that was.I enjoy watching it, it serves the same purpose as a lot of reality tv ie you get to shout at the screen and feel morally superior
I don't care if Carrie's got 1,000 pairs of really ugly, expensive shoes or buys overpriced sushi that comes in a plastic bag with an ironic smiley on it but at least Big Little Lies had a deliberate tongue-in-cheek approach to portraying the wealthy so I don't really feel that comparison holds up. by and large I do agree with Jark though, enjoy the silliness and LEAVE THE RICH ALONE! (on HBO. eat their babies irl).
it's like when Suomi harangued me for liking Call Me By Your Nameapparently gay love is only meaningful if they're poor, are victims of violence, and/or dies from AIDS
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it's like when Suomi harangued me for liking Call Me By Your Nameapparently gay love is only meaningful if they're poor, are victims of violence, and/or dies from AIDS
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Haven't watched Big Little Lies (should I?)
I’m watching episode one now. Oh dear at this scene meeting the professor.Oh Miranda .
And there's even more forced akwardness coming.I’m watching episode one now. Oh dear at this scene meeting the professor.
Haven't watched Big Little Lies (should I?) but in terms of rich people problems I've tried to watch Elite and gave up at the end of season 1 and still can't believe how successful that was.
The most relatable thing this season was Miranda at lunch saying ‘Shall we just get a BOTTLE?’
It just makes economic sense!The most relatable thing this season was Miranda at lunch saying ‘Shall we just get a BOTTLE?’
From a birth defect never causing any discomfort or pain before, despite the fact that she's been pounding the streets of Manhattan for forty years in spiked heelsA potentially life changing hip operation covered in 44min. What a show![]()
I thought the umbrella as a cane was Carrie showing a rare sense of humour. But no it was a plot deviceFrom a birth defect never causing any discomfort or pain before, despite the fact that she's been pounding the streets of Manhattan for forty years in spiked heels![]()
Big Little Lies was very clearly a comment on class and wealth. This show still carries with it that very mid-2000s "the more money the better" energy. They may have tried to address the privilege issue when it comes to race, but they still haven't addressed it when it comes to wealth (I am only judging on the first three episodes).sorry but what is this? are we only allowed to watch shows about rich people if they're all acknowledged by the show as being cunts?
do you all want Carrie hanging around a soup kitchen for eight episodes?
nobody complained about everyone on Big Little Lies being rich. it's a window into a world that has probably little resonance for 90% of the audience - and maybe that's why people like it. economic hyperrealism (or token poor characters!) is not necessary in escapist tv of this genre.
all your critiques read like you went into the show determined to hate it, so why bother?
I guess Charlotte's married to a lawyer, Miranda was until recently a corporate partner at a law firm and Big was a successful investment banker (I think?). So I can see why they would have money, though probably not as much as it's implied they have!Also there’s been quite the jump from them being relatively well-off in the original series to the obscene wealth they seem to have now, despite the fact Charlotte DOESN’T WORK, Miranda has QUIT HER JOB, and Carrie does A PODCAST.
hey, being a reluctant talking head on a podcast in which her sole job is to be the uptight third wheel pays much better than you'd think. and Miranda gets a dollar back every time she recycles a bottle! even Charlotte is rich in facial expressions and sexy husband currency.Also there’s been quite the jump from them being relatively well-off in the original series to the obscene wealth they seem to have now, despite the fact Charlotte DOESN’T WORK, Miranda has QUIT HER JOB, and Carrie does A PODCAST.
Oh I thought it was really quiteI couldn’t help but feel horrified by this whole scene! The grunts and screams are still haunting me.
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Big owned his own company didn't he? He was obscenely wealthy back then, so I think Carrie being so now makes sense. Or at least more sense as her seeming to be as wealthy as the rest of them in the original run.
Cynthia and Kristen are producers for the first time and are actually involved creatively, rather than being vanity credits. Cynthia also directed an episode.What is a producer in TV sense? Is it a title to earn a bit more money while everyone else does the hard work?
It seems more common for all the stars to also be producers. Even the cast of turd alert Emily in Paris are “producers”.
I have to say I’ve been complaining the whole series to @Suomi about how I hate what they’ve done to Miranda and that she kind of makes no sense. And then all of a sudden with the “I’M UNHAPPY” breakdown even all the weird clumsy inclusion apologist stuff made a little more sense alongside the alcoholism. So maybe I just didn’t see that she didn’t even make sense to herself?
Also, I guess because patriarchy and misogyny and gay, I’ve never really thought about what a female mid-life crisis could look like. We talk about that as the male experience and the menopause is kind of wrongly subbed in as the female experience when that’s obviously distinct from (but could overlap with) the menopause. And I guess now that Cynth Nix is a proper producer on this one, she can justifiably get her mitts on what story she wants to tell through Miranda. Even if it’s a bit ham-fisted, I strongly suspect this drive on diversification has most to do with Cynth Nix and her wanting to reflect her COMING OUT JOURNEY and that’s given it new dimensions and directions, like black people.
I'd say it only feels like it's come out of nowhere to me because we didn't see it in the original run (well, or the movies, but I don't imagine any thought was given to those). In terms of how it's been tackled here I don't think it's unrealistic.In Cynthia’s case, she is obviously a queer woman IRL and has brought that into the character of Miranda. But my issue here is that, while late-in-life coming out stories exist, it really doesn’t make a huge amount of sense in Miranda’s case? It really does feel like it has come from nowhere.