Avatar: The Way of Water

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I love water and those little blue guys so I will also be watching.

Can't help but wonder if those urban legends will resurface about people offing themselves because reality simply doesn't compare to the lush CGI landscape of Pandora :disco:
 
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Mugatu said:
I love water and those little blue guys so I will also be watching.

Can't help but wonder if those urban legends will resurface about people offing themselves because reality simply doesn't compare to the lush CGI landscape of Pandora :disco:
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I’ll have to watch it as it’s bound to be nominated for visual effects Oscars, but with that runtime I’ll wait for Disney+. The “immersive cinema experience” won’t be much use as I’m bound to fall asleep.
 
By the way, talking of 3D, it has come to my attention that quite a LOT of people simply cannot see 3D in film and the glasses just help to un-blur the images, but don’t show any effects for them.

Last year I went to see Jungle Cruise in 3D with a friend (just because the 3D showing was the most convenient time). The cinema accidentally reversed the 3D filters so that what was supposed to be the foreground went in to the background. It was really weird to see and we informed the cinema staff. The staff checked the screen and couldn’t see a problem. When they didn’t do anything after 15 mins we complained again, and it was only me, my friend and one other person with a problem in the screen. About 10 other people were happily watching it with no issue and the staff couldn’t see it either. Another staff member came in and did see the issue, but said it was too late to fix as we’d have to start the film again, so as it wasn’t bothering anyone else we left and they just gave us some vouchers.

The exact same thing happened to my friend again this week when trying to see Strange World!
 
Ellie said:
By the way, talking of 3D, it has come to my attention that quite a LOT of people simply cannot see 3D in film and the glasses just help to un-blur the images, but don’t show any effects for them.

Last year I went to see Jungle Cruise in 3D with a friend (just because the 3D showing was the most convenient time). The cinema accidentally reversed the 3D filters so that what was supposed to be the foreground went in to the background. It was really weird to see and we informed the cinema staff. The staff checked the screen and couldn’t see a problem. When they didn’t do anything after 15 mins we complained again, and it was only me, my friend and one other person with a problem in the screen. About 10 other people were happily watching it with no issue and the staff couldn’t see it either. Another staff member came in and did see the issue, but said it was too late to fix as we’d have to start the film again, so as it wasn’t bothering anyone else we left and they just gave us some vouchers.

The exact same thing happened to my friend again this week when trying to see Strange World!
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I was about to say, Mr RoM can't see in 3D because he has one eye that doesn't look forward exactly (and for the most part he can't see out of at all) and as you say, all the 3D glasses did was revert the film to normal. Which obviously helped when I dragged him along to 3D showings years ago, but equally made it frustrating and pointless for him when he couldn't get anything out of it.

The problem for me with 3D was the effect, even if initially impressive, wore off about half hour into the film to the point you don't even realise it's there. Which just made me wonder what the benefit was. I'm sure it's technology that can be pushed further to create something more immersive, but a bit like plastic surgery, I can happily pass until it ups its game. Which maybe it has as I haven't watched 3D in years but it's not exactly screaming for my money right now.
 
I know somebody who is, inexplicably, an Avatar STAN, and really annoying about it. I need this to flop because I'm a bad person.
 
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Raining On Me said:
I was about to say, Mr RoM can't see in 3D because he has one eye that doesn't look forward exactly (and for the most part he can't see out of at all) and as you say, all the 3D glasses did was revert the film to normal. Which obviously helped when I dragged him along to 3D showings years ago, but equally made it frustrating and pointless for him when he couldn't get anything out of it.

The problem for me with 3D was the effect, even if initially impressive, wore off about half hour into the film to the point you don't even realise it's there. Which just made me wonder what the benefit was. I'm sure it's technology that can be pushed further to create something more immersive, but a bit like plastic surgery, I can happily pass until it ups its game. Which maybe it has as I haven't watched 3D in years but it's not exactly screaming for my money right now.
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It was always the loss of about 20% of light that irritated me.
 
3D or not, I remain entirely unfussed about this. The first was a hard slog and the prettiness wasnt special enough to transcend that. I can't pretend I won't see it, but definitely on the TELLY. Fuck sitting through over 3 hours of this at the cinema. The ARROGANCE of it all :D

I'm really interested to see what the appetite is. I seem to recall lots of flop predictions last time and look what happened. I guess if nothing else the promo trail will be wall to wall down your throat coverage that it can't possibly fail, but surely it's going to be down on the original.

Has the first one had any kind of lasting impact on younger people? In the way that certain 80s kids/adventure films had so much influence on kids through the 90s and beyond, does Avatar have any of that going for it? Is it being bigged up on the SOCIALS? I just don't know
 
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Also I can’t believe they invoked that dreadful Leona song.
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After reading this I was disappointed not to get proper song clips, but still agog they've used it to some degree again. I unashamedly love that song.
 
Raining On Me said:
After reading this I was disappointed not to get proper song clips, but still agog they've used it to some degree again. I unashamedly love that song.
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It's not really referring back to the song. The 'I See You' thing was a bit from the first film where they meant that they could see into each other's souls, or some such bollocks.

I rewatched the first one last weekend and, whilst the story is hugely lightweight and cliched, it's a reasonably diverting way to pass the time. It has absolutely no need to be as long as it is, and I'd imagine that will be even more that case for the new one.
 
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It's not really referring back to the song. The 'I See You' thing was a bit from the first film where they meant that they could see into each other's souls, or some such bollocks.
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I meant the music in the trailer, there's a hint of "I See You" at the end of it
 
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I meant the music in the trailer, there's a hint of "I See You" at the end of it
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Ah, right. I've not seen the trailer to the new one since rewatching the original film and prior to that I couldn't have picked its music out of a line-up.
 
I mean it's only a few bars, unless it's just vague Avatar music (that happened to be tacked onto Leona's song), but it's that same sound...if that makes sense :D I associate it with the song more than the film which yeah, I don't recall the soundtrack of at all

Anyway sadly we appear not to be getting a Leona sequel. Maybe she can conjure up a Tik Tok moment out of it regardless, I don't know. I suspect "One More Sleep" keeps her in pretty hair well enough these days
 
I'd imagine the music for Leona's song was written by James Horner and based around his score for the rest of the film, exactly the same as he did with 'My Heart Will Go On'.
 
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I'd imagine the music for Leona's song was written by James Horner and based around his score for the rest of the film, exactly the same as he did with 'My Heart Will Go On'.
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Yeah that's what I mean, but all I hear is the Leona song rather than Avatar music specifically.

Possibly an affliction of being an aging gay on an obscure internet forum that runs imaginary song contests.
 
I'm not overly fussed about the Avatar universe, but James Cameron is always worth showing up to the cinema for. I'm more than ready for some more mind-blowing visuals on the biggest and loudest screen I can find.

I went to the see the first one at the IMAX when it was rereleased last month and it was still jaw-dropping stuff :disco:
 
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The Wii game wasn't so bad looking.

The 3D wasn't really a draw for me at all. It always bemuses me to read any references to a "3D craze" being over (then and now) as it never caught on in the 50s either - you can sometimes guess what actions would have been presented to look impressive, but mostly you simply forget about that other aspect, which is where I am with this. I keep meaning to buy a new TV (I can't believe how cheap they are) and would be much more excited to have this as the first thing to watch on it for example.
 
First day US gross is estimated at $53000000, which is only the sixth highest of the year. Suggests that they may have…problems.
 
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dmlaubles said:
First day US is gross is estimated at $53000000, which is only the sixth highest of the year. Suggests that they may have…problems.
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O Kala Ye Faithful said:
Only the sixth? Is that not good?
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The talk is that it needs to be one of the three or four biggest films ever to break even. It‘s too early to say that it’s flopping and it was always going to come down to how well it holds over the next couple of weeks, but this is definitely a lower opening day than they would have hoped for.
 
I think it will unfortunately have legs over the festive period, as literally NOTHING else is out.
 
Mind you, the original Avatar didn’t open big either, it did exactly that, had legs. It’s an event movie that will have people coming.

It doesn’t look very interesting but after everything it seems a bit contrarian to not have faith in Cameron after everything. I mean it’s certainly not a rushed-out sequel
 
dmlaubles said:
The talk is that it needs to be one of the three or four biggest films ever to break even. It‘s too early to say that it’s flopping and it was always going to come down to how well it holds over the next couple of weeks, but this is definitely a lower opening day than they would have hoped for.
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James Cameron is talking out of his arse as per. the opening weekend was $134m US and $434m global. it's not a bad result by any means. if it has legs over Christmas (moviegoing in the US is massive over xmas) it should clear $1.4bn which will be roughly the break-even benchmark.
 
I really don’t understand how the industry even works as a “business” any more. If you need to put all hopes of a film ending up in the Top 5-10 biggest of all time just to BREAK EVEN, and there are what, 4-5 MORE to come all costing about the same? Who would actually risk that and agree to finance it?
 
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I really don’t understand how the industry even works as a “business” any more. If you need to put all hopes of a film ending up in the Top 5-10 biggest of all time just to BREAK EVEN, and there are what, 4-5 MORE to come all costing about the same? Who would actually risk that and agree to finance it?
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Elon Musk.
 
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