The UK: The Keir Starmer years

funky said:
The whole thing screams WE’RE OUT OF IDEAS
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I think it's a "covering our back" exercise. No-one can turn round and say they weren't listening to the public if they've consulted the public. It'll all be narrowed down into a report and then they can read it and throw it on the fire, but they can at least say they asked what the public wanted, it's not THEIR fault the public have no good ideas.

I'm pretty sure they'll just end up executing whatever plan they have, but this buys them a year without having to do anything
 
On the other hand, I believe Wes Streeting still has some evil twinks he couldn't find a safe seat for but he can still give them a contract for PPE, consultancy work, or to record a voiceover to play each time you call 111 asking "but have you tried being SKINNY?"
 
There are some pretty good suggestions there too, and plenty of fully serious ones. It's a shame the haha lol ones are the ones that'll get the clout, but the fact that the man behind it himself is pedaling them is a farce.
 
I don't really mind the odd one-off thing like that to humanise them a little.
"our taxes are paying for the couple of minutes to do this!"
Yeah they're also paying for Margaret to spend 15 minutes in the staff kitchen handing out slices of her birthday cake, sit down.
 
Tisch said:
Install daleks in hospitals oh aren't we all FUNNY. Meanwhile your nan sits on a two year waiting list, HA HA HA.
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I agree but also think there is some value in pointing out the ridiculousness of the exercise. It's the Led By Donkeys conundrum - have they actually improved anything? Did the Tories fail harder because of them? Absolutely not. But have they done (some) worthwhile and entertaining stuff? Yes, they have.
 
It’s a pretty safe Labour seat (15k majority) but if they do lose it, it’ll probably be to Reform :bruised:
 
Absolutely livid that they're scrapping the £2 bus fare. As someone who travels all over the place for work, it's a life saver. It means I can work 20 miles away without paying more than £4 for the privilege. That will turn into £8 or £10 or more when scrapped.
 
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AGinAg (39) said:
Absolutely livid that they're scrapping the £2 bus fare. As someone who travels all over the place for work, it's the life saver. It means I can work 20 miles away without paying more than £4 for the privilege. That will turn into £8 or £10 or more when scrapped.
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Nothing has been announced yet other than speculation from the usual outraged rags.

I do agree it would be retrograde step though. Public transport should be a cornerstone of any climate battle.
 
AGinAg (39) said:
Absolutely livid that they're scrapping the £2 bus fare. As someone who travels all over the place for work, it's the life saver. It means I can work 20 miles away without paying more than £4 for the privilege. That will turn into £8 or £10 or more when scrapped.
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But at least @Kratz will get another holiday!
 
On the £2 bus fare, the first thing to say is the Tories had only funded that til the end of 2024 and therefore that is the end of the funding in relation to the £2 capped fair.

I do know how much this matters, particularly in rural communities where there’s heavy reliance on busses, and that’s why I’m able to say to you this morning that in the budget, we will announce there will be a £3 cap on bus fares to the end of 2025, because I know how important it is. So that will be there in the budget on Wednesday.
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So it's staying but going up from £2 to £3. Annoying, but could be worse.
 
I use public transport nearly every day, but it's always worked out cheaper for me to buy a monthly ticket anyway.

I can well imagine it may dissuade some people who use buses less frequently from getting the bus though - or represent a significant increase in how much they pay each month.
 
I *think* some places will keep it at £2. I've seen tweets suggesting Manchester will do that, and I'm hoping it extends to West Yorkshire too as our mayor Tracy Brabin seems to work pretty closely with Andy Burnham on public transport issues.
 
Indie said:
£3 seems fair enough. There's busses around here that will take you 50 miles on the cap.
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Yet here at least there are very few routes which go across the city or around it. Practically all routes are just into and out of the centre. I'd have to spend £6 to get to my mum's, a journey of over an hour, into town on one bus and out on another, despite her living only a 20 minute walk away. Yet I could get deep into Somerset for £3.

Public transport is shit in the UK, and particularly so here. Still, I'm sure our Green majority council will sort it out :)
 
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