The UK: The Keir Starmer years (3 Viewers)

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ButterTart said:
As someone currently working in this sector I say ABOUT FUCKING TIME. They also need to clear out the dead wood who see sanctioning people as a sport, not a last ditch measure.
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Jobs that allow someone to be a prick have a tendency to attract pricks. It's the same as the police - you get some who want to serve their community etc and a clutch who just want to hit people with a baton. The boasting by the Tories about cuts and sanctioning must have brought some awful people into the organisation.
 
ZenGiraffe said:
Yes, obviously, but I still am not going to celebrate this woman:

www.theguardian.com

Life on benefits will not be an option under Labour, says Liz Kendall

In Demos speech, shadow work and pensions secretary takes tough stance on welfare as she lays out plans for young
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

The bare minimum, not being the tories, is not enough for me to stan uncritically.
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Agreed. We still need to see what all of the talk of the 6 days is going to look like in practice. A shift in policy and approach is welcome but if there's no practical impact, it's just more words.
 
The obvious gulf between some of the pre-election and post-election talk is absolutely glaring.
 
We'll have to see obviously, but I think we have a tendency to assume that the good stuff is 'just words' and the more Daily M@il-coded statements that Labour come out with, such as the Kendal line Zen quoted above represent their true, evil intent.

But I do think we should allow for the possibility that the reverse can also be true.
 
We are post election now. These are the actual policies they intend to implement. They have a Blair sized majority, they don't need to bait the Mail anymore.
 
ZenGiraffe said:
Yes, obviously, but I still am not going to celebrate this woman:

www.theguardian.com

Life on benefits will not be an option under Labour, says Liz Kendall

In Demos speech, shadow work and pensions secretary takes tough stance on welfare as she lays out plans for young
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

The bare minimum, not being the tories, is not enough for me to stan uncritically.
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Acknowledging when they are doing something right is not the same as stanning uncritically. If they start putting forward loathsome policies, you can call them Red Tories as much as you want.
 
ZenGiraffe said:
Streeting made his begging bowl comment after the election.
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Obviously a CUNT comment but i’ve seen supplementary remarks that Streeting has made that gets across the point a lot better. What Streeting is saying is that simply throwing more and more money at the NHS is not going to fix its systemic issues. As someone who works in health policy, I completely agree with that.

As things stand right now, the NHS uses emergency cash injections tend to plug gaps and meet demand in the most expensive parts of the service like hospitals and emergency care. The reason it has to do this is because the nation has got sicker over the last 14 years - due to systemic undermining of those things that keep us well both in the health service (such as primary and community care) and outside of it (such as the welfare system, housing, community facilities).

The goal is not to undermine the health service - the idea is to not have a system where everyone ends up needing the health service, and particularly its most expensive parts, because society has failed them until that point.
 
Tetris-Rock said:
The reason it has to do this is because the nation has got sicker over the last 14 years - due to systemic undermining of those things that keep us well both in the health service (such as primary and community care) and outside of it (such as the welfare system, housing, community facilities).

The goal is not to undermine the health service - the idea is to not have a system where everyone ends up needing the health service, and particularly its most expensive parts, because society has failed them until that point.
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Things so true. Obviously we have the massive Boomer generation approaching 80 years old, but the sheer number of young people I see around with mobility issues and other long term health conditions is completely disproportionate to 20 years ago :(
 
Tetris-Rock said:
Obviously a CUNT comment but i’ve seen supplementary remarks that Streeting has made that gets across the point a lot better. What Streeting is saying is that simply throwing more and more money at the NHS is not going to fix its systemic issues. As someone who works in health policy, I completely agree with that.

As things stand right now, the NHS uses emergency cash injections tend to plug gaps and meet demand in the most expensive parts of the service like hospitals and emergency care. The reason it has to do this is because the nation has got sicker over the last 14 years - due to systemic undermining of those things that keep us well both in the health service (such as primary and community care) and outside of it (such as the welfare system, housing, community facilities).

The goal is not to undermine the health service - the idea is to not have a system where everyone ends up needing the health service, and particularly its most expensive parts, because society has failed them until that point.
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Absolutely.

I'm sure every workplace has areas of waste that could be looked at, but the NHS leaks money in so many avoidable and unnecessary ways. For one thing, it's ludicrous that despite all qualified staff being trained to the same regulated standard, a lot of their skills are deemed non-transferrable. I teach venepuncture and cannulation to students, but if I do an agency shift in the hospital we're attached to, I'm not allowed to use those skills because I haven't attended the specific training run by the hospital. So, I'm being paid around double the rate of a substantive member of staff to do less than them.

On a day-to-day basis it may not seem a lot. But add up across the entire NHS the amount of staff being paid to attend courses that are run to teach them how to do things they are already trained (and regulated) to do just to tick a box and that's the sort of stuff that could be addressed with a functioning NHS-wide electronic staff record.
 
I really need to do that reading of Cass that I said I would do (as well as a review of the now numerous academic reviews of Cass) and write to him.

What’s absolutely infuriating is that I saw him being interviewed and he spoke about struggling with his sexuality when he was young and how free he felt when he was able to be himself - feels completely lost on him that the exact same thing happens when you’re trans.
 
We were told to hold our nose and vote for Labour's terfs. We didn't. This is why.
 
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Thoroughly enjoying variations of this tweet popping up constantly on my timeline. When was the last time a new minister was so despised so quickly by their own side (nominally)?

 
I never understand how these intensely dislikable people attract and retain enough support to wind up in prominent positions? Are they the most successful union in the Labour party?
 
A lovely STARMER AND STREETING ARE CUNTS banner at Pride today

I was hoping to get Carla Denyer in the same shot but it didn't happen
 
Labour has as many factions as the Tories, it's just that theirs were more visible to the outside. Streeting will be the result of some bargaining that took place in a backroom at a conference. He needs to go.
 
Yeah, OK, OK, we get it, not everyone in the Labour Party supports Streeting's approach but it doesn't matter because Starmer made his position clear in the weeks before the election so, to all intents and purposes, this is government policy. This is getting like Baroness Warsi being rolled out to complain about the direction the Tories were going every few weeks.
 
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