UK General Election 2024 - July 4th

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jivafox said:
How will they enforce it? Are they going to be throwing 18 year olds into prison for not turning up to their Saturday shift at PRAMA?
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No space in the prisons. Also they’re supposed to be studying their compulsory maths aren’t they? :side-eye:
 
Well they can't throw young adults in prison for smoking any more, so I guess the ARMY is the next best thing. Just move from one law against young people to another I suppose, as long as the over-70s approve.
 
By week 4, it'll be "Right then, I'll bring back hanging. And the birch. And the stocks too, how about that?"
 
Surely this was just to push Starmer's plan to reduce the voting age to 16 off the front pages? Typical Tory tho' - the answer to everything is always that young people are awful so how about we get some some cheap/unpaid labour?
 
I’m more than happy for this to be on the front pages.
 
Oh I’m GAGGED at this military idea.

As fucking IF :D Are they going to allow frequent TikTok breaks for the youth of today?
 
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untilted said:
The ACCURACY!

Does anybody even know what Rishi Rich is doing? It feels really odd that he's trying to sabotage but I can't look at it any other way?
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Desperate attempt to win over/retain the votes of the older generation. The ones who whinge about lazy Gen Z but who also didn't do any sort of National Service themselves.
 
It'll play well to a certain section of boomers and whatever the generation before was calle, not that there are so many of them left.

No doubt the same one who will think it's ridiculous that 16-17 year olds could get the vote, despite the average 16-17 year old being more clued up and engaged with politics (and fuck knows more invested in the future) than they are.
 
That'll definitely excite the boomer who was talking AT me at a car meet a couple of years ago. Usual for this type, his Facebook feed is constant Union flags, Are Brave Boys and a sprinkling of replacement theory. He was going on and and on in a long unbroken monologue about how they should bring back national service, it gives youths a sense of purpose don't cha know, etc. Time will tell if this self proclaimed "silent majority" really is a majority but I have a fair amount of hope that it's not.
 
It is interesting how the people who like to describe themselves as a silent majority won't shut up about their stupid fucking opinions.
 
dmlaw said:
It is interesting how the people who like to describe themselves as a silent majority won't shut up about their stupid fucking opinions.
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They're convinced they're being silenced, and don't hesitate to tell us via their uncensored Twitter, Tik Tok, Discord, Twitch and YouTube channels in between their appearances on GBNews to talk about how they're never invited to appear on television.
 
I remember growing up in the 80s, having lived through the Falklands War, being petrified of it being reintroduced.
 
My mum (a boomer) was telling me on the phone although she has always voted Labour she’s quite tempted to give the tories another go because she “doesn’t know if change is right” and “they looked after me well during covid”. (I’ll come onto this in a mo). She said she just can’t bare Starmer (which I agree with but not enough to go against it - he CAN be replaced)

Furthermore, she was on a waiting list for 2 years for an emergency operation!! I’ve no idea where this “I was looking after” bullshit is coming from. I just can’t. She’s barely got a pot to piss in!! 🤦‍♂️
 
untilted said:
The ACCURACY!

Does anybody even know what Rishi Rich is doing? It feels really odd that he's trying to sabotage but I can't look at it any other way?
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Nigel Farage, the honorary president of Reform UK, said the proposal for mandatory national service was a “joke” and designed to appeal to his party’s voters.

“You follow what the focus groups say – you say, by doing this I can attack the Reform vote. That’s what it’s all about. And look, it’s totally impractical. The army has shrunk from 100,000 to 75,000 in 14 years of Conservatism,” Farage told Sky.
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What's the political strategy called when a party comes out with something wacky that appeals to their core, but the opposition have no choice but to come out against it, and that's more damaging?

The right wing did it in the 80s and 90s with the gays, and more recently with immigration. The left wing party has to come and say they don't agree and then they're accused of being soft/anti-domestic/anti-majority/woke etc

Anyway that's the Tory's plan. You can see it already. They have nothing left but a PR campaign of whataboutery. And I actually think it will help them claw back some votes. Not enough obviously, but it's going to be an ugly, hateful campaign.
 
This seems like a very inspiring story, but I did have to check and double check that there was actually a parliamentary constituency called ’The Wrekin’

 
No doubt it’s because everyone in the civil service is just a lazy fucker so it’s best to punish them some way before they slide into their 40 year jolly of a job.
 
So a future teacher or nurse can't have a career serving the public, without having spent a mandatory year serving the public. Make it make sense.

And how would this work for foreign nationals which many parts of the public sector rely on in order to keep barely functioning? Yet another policy idea pulled out of thin air.
 
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I don't know why anyone (us, the media, social media) is spending all this time talking about this national service policy? Everyone knows, including them, that it's something that is never going to happen because they aren't winning. So it's just a waste of everyone's breath to even talk about it. It's just there as a distractor (and it seems to be working)
 
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