UK General Election 2024 - July 4th

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The whole structure of the debates is to avoid a repeat of Cleggmania, where someone breaks into the defacto 2 party structure. Neither Starmer nor Sunak can achieve anything like this because neither is straight talking, neither is likeable and neither is offering anything different.

However, the main thing the polling keeps coming back with is that no-one really knows what Starmer stands for. Very few know what Sunak stands for either but, as anyone can tell you, Tories will votes for anything and anyone as long as a tax cut is on the table. It matters less. If Starmer is unconvincing, the interested but unconvinced lose him and this is where the danger lies.
 


I don’t see an issue with this really. Why shouldn’t he be pictured with a rehabilitated criminal? Saying otherwise is the very reason we end up with a political class who are out of touch with reality and are supposed to live unrealistic “whiter than white” lives.
 
I've got a good friend convicted more recently than that. Gullis would privileged to be photographed with her.

I mean 4 kilos isn't exactly dabbling but people serve prison sentences for a reason, to rehabilitate and reform. If he's come out the other side a better person then its a bit of a reach, but then I suppose if he's a tory he's not exactly reformed either so drag the cunt.
 
I mean 4 kilos isn't exactly dabbling but people serve prison sentences for a reason, to rehabilitate and reform. If he's come out the other side a better person then its a bit of a reach, but then I suppose if he's a tory he's not exactly reformed either so drag the cunt.
I guess so

I just don't think it's the gotcha moment it can be portrayed as. Or at least am not comfortable with it.
 
Oh she’s MOTHERING!

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I wish somebody would’ve sounded the DIANE ABBOT KLAXON to let me know she was giving a statement on the TOWN HALL STEPS as it’s only 5 minutes from my office.
 
I was FLICKING through the Fail tonight in my mum’s house, in kind of the way you would watch a salted snail die in agony if put in front of you, and honestly the number of times I read “Keir Starmer” and “socialist” in the same sentence is quite startling, considering a lot of moopy dislikes him for NOT being a socialist, it’s a wonder the man has won any votes at ALL
 


It's pretty galling to use a tweet talking about Islamophobia as one of your reasons to deselect somebody.

Also to announce it by briefing the press before you tell her. Spiteful.
 
I'm wondering if Newsnight already had her booked or if they scrambled to get her on at the last minute. If it's the former that's dreadful TIMING on Labour's part.

She was an absolute dead cert at giant-killing Iain Duncan Smith as well. She was only about 1000 votes behind him in 2019. Her story would have been a big success for Labour. She talks about how it's a "personal" one for her having had a sick mother who had to go through rounds of DWP interviews for benefits. An all round brilliant candidate in both her own right, and if you simply look at the optics. A massive screw up.
 
I'm utterly disgusted with Luke Akehurst. Bad enough as a candidate but being paracheted into a safe seat he knows fuck all about is just a disgrace. I really hope local parties can get some strong independent candidates together and keep some of these pricks out of Parliament.
 
I'm wondering if Newsnight already had her booked or if they scrambled to get her on at the last minute. If it's the former that's dreadful TIMING on Labour's part.

She was an absolute dead cert at giant-killing Iain Duncan Smith as well. She was only about 1000 votes behind him in 2019. Her story would have been a big success for Labour. She talks about how it's a "personal" one for her having had a sick mother who had to go through rounds of DWP interviews for benefits. An all round brilliant candidate in both her own right, and if you simply look at the optics. A massive screw up.
It's exactly what's wrong with Labour. Not listening to the local party and so obsessed with one set of optics that they're completely ignoring another. Starmer is being accused of removing women of colour from his party and his response is Luke Akehurst.
 
Voted for Faiza last time. She’s absolutely of the politics that Starmer is trying to get rid of, but she’s very very popular locally and there are other sitting MPs who are no different. This is such an own goal, they could’ve managed this ages ago if they really believed she was problematic.
 
It's almost as if Starmer doesn't want a thumping majority. Or he's so arrogant, he reckons he can get away with purging people who've had the temerity to disagree with him at any stage.
 
There’s an arrogance here centred on the fact he knows he’s winning no matter what. He’s so busy chasing racist northerners and suburban mums he’s got no regard for the young and urban vote who have consistently voted Labour all these years. I know there’s no real chance of any upsets for Labour beyond Jezza taking Islington, but I hope there’s at least some definitive swings away from Labour in the metropolitan areas.
 
It’s the NEC. They’ve clearly gone mad with power now that the prospect of a tory wipeout is all but certain.

Dawn Butler had the measure of them. A majority of labour councillors and MPs are good, hard working people who align with what Labour is supposed to stand for. Too many people in the National Executive however are jumped up little gremlins who treat politics like an episode of Scandal with themselves as the main character. They’re an absolute liability.
 
lol are we really acting like extreme ratfuckery in the Labour Party is a new thing? It’s baked in. And let’s not pretend it didn’t happen to members of the PLP in the period 2015-2020 eh.
 
It's almost as if Starmer doesn't want a thumping majority. Or he's so arrogant, he reckons he can get away with purging people who've had the temerity to disagree with him at any stage.
You should’ve seen the Corbyn years.
 
I may be misremembering, but weren't the deselection threats bottom up in his years, where the CLPs were democratically trying to deselect MPs, rather than it coming from Corbyn himself and the NEC?
A proxy is a proxy is a proxy
 

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